Diabetics Doing Swedish with Sara Moback

[00:00:00] Rob Howe: Welcome back to the Diabetics Doing Things podcast where we're telling the amazing, untold, wacky, weird, and inspiring stories of type 1 diabetics from across the world. I'm your host, Rob Howe, and I wanted to let you know that we now have over 500 years of living with T1D on the podcast, and we're on track to be over 1,000 by the end of the summer, which is pretty exciting. I also wanted to chat about my new email series, Friday T1D Feels, where I send you a personal note, no fancy graphics or anything like that, about what I've been thinking about in the world of type 1 diabetes during that week. If you're into that, just go to diabeticsdoingthings.com and sign up. I'd also like to take a minute to talk about hashtag coverage to control. JDRF is raising awareness around the fact that most of us don't get to pick the insulin pumps we have, just the ones our insurance will cover. Just imagine if your cell phone was like that. Except this isn't a phone, it's what keeps us alive. So let your voice be heard and tell your insurance company that T1Ds and their doctors should decide what kind of pumps they use, not the company's. I'm looking at you, Aetna, UnitedHealthcare, Blue Cross Blue Shield. Let's get this right. Okay, enough chatter. Let's get back to the episode. welcome back to another episode of diabetics doing things we're telling the amazing stories of t1ds from all over the world uh and today we're actually going even further out than we've ever been into a guest that is from sweden and we've never had anybody from sweden before so Sara Moback is my guest welcome to the podcast hi thank you so much well it's very exciting to have you here. And you have been one of the most easy interviews to coordinate internationally. I think we got our first try right on the button. So thank you for making the time to come on the show.

[00:01:55] Sara Moback: Yeah, I'm super excited about this, to tell you about my diabetes history.

[00:02:01] Rob Howe: Well, I know a lot of our listeners, whenever we have an international guest, talking about what it's like to live with type 1 diabetes in another country is always sort of a hot button. So I'm very excited to have you as well. So why don't we get started? How did you join our T1D family? What's your diagnosis story?

[00:02:23] Sara Moback: Well, I've been diagnosed for almost 15 years, I think it is this year. And well, the same week I received my diagnosis. We had a musical show in school and a classmate, it is kind of a long story, but a classmate to me had a sister who has diabetes too and she was inviting me to take a blood sugar test the same week. And I didn't really want to take the blood sugar because I think I realized something was going super wrong with me and my body. So I said no. But the night before I got into a hospital, there was the musical performance. And after the concert, my classmate mom called my dad and told my dad that I think Sara has diabetes and then my parents realized well yeah she might have diabetes so the day after my dad took me to the hospital and I was so skinny and I was so I was so I would say I was I was so sick so they could just look at me and yeah and yeah she has diabetes so so that so a class a

[00:03:58] Rob Howe: A classmate's sister just noticed your symptoms?

[00:04:03] Sara Moback: Because I was drinking so much water, and I went to the bathroom many, many, many times during the day, like in school. That was the only thing I kind of did in school.

[00:04:18] Rob Howe: Yeah, I remember, I think it was maybe four or five days before my diagnosis, I was watching a movie. And I think it was The Aviator with Leonardo DiCaprio. And I only saw probably 30 minutes of that three-hour movie because every five minutes it seemed like I was getting up and going to the bathroom. It was the worst.

[00:04:43] Sara Moback: Yeah, it's so crazy. You can't realize yourself that you're sick or something's wrong.

[00:04:51] Rob Howe: Well, because it's not that abnormal to go to... I mean, you just feel like, man, I'm going to the bathroom a lot. it doesn't immediately set off a trigger.

[00:05:01] Sara Moback: Yeah. And I come up with a friend and I was telling her like, oh, I'm so thirsty all the time. And she was telling me, oh, I also drink a lot of water some period in the year. And you might be in that period in your lifetime when you are drinking so much water. And I was like, well, maybe, maybe it's normal.

[00:05:29] Rob Howe: sometimes, but no, it's not. Right. So when you got diagnosed, you went to the hospital. Yeah. And they obviously told you that you had type 1 diabetes and did you feel much better? I think that's one of the main things I remember from my diagnosis is as soon as they told me I had diabetes, I felt really sad and was very scared. But as soon as they gave me insulin, I just felt immediately 100% better.

[00:05:57] Sara Moback: Yeah, because the day when we arrived to the hospital, they called in Sweden, it was called the sugar disease, I think. And I didn't really know what that was. That was like, am I going to die or am I going to survive this? And how is my life going to change? I really had no idea what diabetes really meant but the first day they gave me insulin and and food of course because I didn't eat so much either and well yeah, I think I Think I it was so long time ago, but I do realize that I felt so much better after just a few hours and and um and it was like a wake-up call like oh is this how life should be is this like is this really good how good you should be like am i doing my no no you're doing you're doing

[00:07:06] Rob Howe: perfect i think yeah it's it is how it should be right so you like it's like a breath of fresh air I remember my vision. I'm not sure how high your blood sugar was when you went to the hospital, but I imagine it was pretty high. Yeah.

[00:07:24] Sara Moback: The meter couldn't say what it was. It was too high.

[00:07:28] Rob Howe: Right. So, like, you know, over 600. In Sweden, you guys have a different unit of measurement, and I apologize. I don't know.

[00:07:37] Sara Moback: It was 70?

[00:07:39] Rob Howe: Yeah. Wow. So in the US, that's probably like, you know, a thousand. So it's a lot. Yeah. And I remember just once I got insulin in me, like my eyes were kind of out of focus because they had been, the blood sugar had been so high. But I just felt like I was like, oh, man, I feel like myself again. I remember how this, what this felt like. I wasn't as tired. I got and I just I felt I was like, OK, like, when do we get to go home? I was so ready to just go on and live my life because I knew what was going on. What was that education process like for you in the hospital? After you got your insulin and you were feeling better, did you feel like everything was going to be okay? Were you scared? What was the diagnosis like for you?

[00:08:32] Sara Moback: Well, I do remember when I was going to take my first insulin shot. And my nurse told me like, oh, this is going to be fine and so on. And I was like, oh, I can do this one time. And she was telling me like, oh, you are going to be doing this your whole life. This is, we don't, like we don't, we can't take this from you. You have diabetes and you need to take your insulin every day, all day. And then I was starting to cry and was very upset and really angry. Like, why me and why my life? And yeah, because I was doing good. I was eating healthy and, you know, all these things you should do when you are a child and a happy child. So it was, yeah, it was a hard and a rough time, I think. But even with this diagnosis, I think I realized I do have diabetes and I'm going to live with it, but I should do everything I can do to be as normal as possible.

[00:09:58] Rob Howe: I totally agree. And I think we all have a moment like that where, you know, you sort of take on the weight of the moment and you're like, oh, like I have to test my blood sugar and I have to give myself a shot or I have to, you know, get a pump and I have to always be conscious of this. And it's sort of overwhelming. But then also we hit that moment, like you said, where like I want to do everything that I was going to do anyway. So what were those things for you? What were those dreams and what are the things that you wanted to do with your life?

[00:10:32] Sara Moback: I played the violin and my dream was to go to the capital of Sweden, Stockholm, and to continue to play the violin and travel and move from my parents' home and be a normal teenager. And I did it. And I think I went to parties and was meeting new friends. And yeah, nothing couldn't stop me, like even the diabetes.

[00:11:09] Rob Howe: And that's so great. I think we have to celebrate those things for T1Ds everywhere because those moments are not, especially early on, every step forward is a huge step in the right direction. So what was that process like for you and your parents? Were there obstacles to overcome? Were you afraid? How did you get through those moments?

[00:11:41] Sara Moback: Well, I think I hold my emotions to myself, which I think is not a good choice. but I wanted to be a grown-up very early in the diagnosis and sometimes I called my parents and I cried and like feeling like I didn't have no one to to talk about these things but the funny thing or yeah the funny thing is that a few years later my dad coming to my room and was like oh Sara, I think, well, can you take a blood sugar on me? And I was like, what? And my dad is a doctor himself, so it was kind of weird. Like, he was asking me for help. And I was like, no, why should I? And he was like, oh, I think I'm drinking too much coffee, but I'm going to the bathroom more than I should. So I took a blood sugar test on him and it was, I think it was 15 mmol/L in Sweden. And he was like, oh, well, I'm going to the doctor tomorrow. So my dad also have right now the diagnosed type 1 diabetes.

[00:13:07] Rob Howe: Wow. So, yeah. And obviously that was like later on in his life. So when he was older.

[00:13:13] Sara Moback: Yeah, he was like 51 or something.

[00:13:17] Rob Howe: Wow, so now you and your dad have type 1.

[00:13:22] Sara Moback: Yeah. So today I'm really glad that he also have it because now we can talk and we can relate to each other in the diagnose because I really can't. I think it's hard to get a person who doesn't have diabetes to understand how it really feels to have the disease. And yeah, like talk up open about the blood sugar and how's life going, like in general.

[00:13:57] Rob Howe: Has that made you guys much closer in your father-daughter relationship?

[00:14:03] Sara Moback: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, definitely.

[00:14:05] Rob Howe: And what kind of things do you guys talk about? Is it more just like you, kind of the roles have reversed and you kind of are telling your dad what to expect and what to do and he's asking you for things and asking you advice and things like that?

[00:14:24] Sara Moback: Yeah, he's like, oh, what should I do now? Or do you think I'm alone now because I was doing a walk before? or like it's not that hard like hard questions but it's like a mental thing because um for example like when you're getting high and you want to eat and it's like oh crap I need I need to eat but um I can't eat right now because I need to wait for my blood sugar to to like go down a little bit before and um he can call me sometime and just oh my night was a shitty night because it was low and then high and i was eating and take some insulin and yeah the whole thing that's so cool i think

[00:15:17] Rob Howe: like having somebody that's very close to you that you can reach out to i mean just makes it makes a huge difference just because you have that relationship there already and so many type ones that I talked to say that their journey with type 1 changed when they either got involved with the community on the internet or they made a friend in real life or they met someone at a support group and became their friend and so that's what a sort of blessing in disguise for you and your dad to be going through that together. Yeah because I think it's

[00:15:56] Sara Moback: it's very important to get to know some other who have the same, like who have diabetes too. You don't even really need to talk about diabetes and how hard it is or how easy it is, but it could be nice to be with someone who has the same problems and they can realize and yeah, you can talk about it but yeah do you so maybe I think you've touched on this a little bit already

[00:16:28] Rob Howe: like do you find um especially in your real life so you're you know going to work or you're at school or you're out with friends and maybe you've had a tough blood sugar day it's been a shitty blood sugar day and you've had highs or lows and do you find that you don't explain those things because I now have a group of friends that I know from a theater around town, a comedy theater, and there's like five of us in the group. And so we can just say, you know, it's basically just like a complaint chain for type 1 diabetics. We can just go in there and say, if we've been having a rough day, we can talk about it, and there's five people that understand exactly what we're going through.

[00:17:09] Sara Moback: Yeah. I do have a good blood sugar, general. But it was like last Friday, me and my friends went out to eat pizza. And it was because I'm gluten intolerant. So it was a few years ago that I was eating a pizza. But they offered me a gluten-free pizza. So I was like, oh, now it's the time to eat one. So I was like taking some insulin. and like 45, one hour later, it was like so super high and I was like, oh shit, what should I do? Like it's lunchtime, I do have a few hours left to do some work and so on. But I explained to my friends and to my co-workers that I'm feeling a little bit tired and that was it. I didn't really explain why and that it was my diabetes and my blood sugar. But I think they know me so well, so they don't really ask.

[00:18:26] Rob Howe: And in that same vein, like in your professional career or at work, how do you talk about your type 1? Or how do you bring that up with your coworkers?

[00:18:40] Sara Moback: Well, I don't think I talk about it so much. I do inform them that I have diabetes and that I need to eat in specific times and I need to eat my lunch and maybe a snack between the big meals. and sometimes I need to calibrate my CGM and they think that it's fine. Sometimes someone, a random person like, oh, are you going to eat an apple now? Or it's a meeting and it's a shitty comment. and I do if I if I get a comment like that or someone like tracking down on me I they get the

[00:19:30] Rob Howe: same back no I think that's a that's a feeling that a lot of type ones here especially in America go through and I'm sure you see like the same like memes and things on like Instagram about

[00:19:44] Sara Moback: responding to comments like that yeah because i if i handle my life they should handle their life right for me like i'm not doing this for my co-workers or some other persons that i'm meeting so i'm doing this for me like i want to do as good as possible in my diagnose

[00:20:11] Rob Howe: No, 100%. I want to shift gears a little bit and talk about diagnosis and living with type 1 in Sweden because I think that's something that a lot of us are curious about is how type 1s across the world live and in what ways we're all the same and then in what ways some things are different.

[00:20:34] Sara Moback: Yeah, I don't really know how it is to have diabetes in the US, but in Sweden, all people in Sweden pay some taxes. And when you're getting a disease or you're going to the hospital, it doesn't cost anything. it's kind of free well some Swedish might be listening to this and like what is she talking about but we don't pay any hospital fees because we are paying taxes in Sweden so and we get all the insulin for free and all the things that belongs to to like the blood sugar testing and so on. But when it comes to the new modern things like the FreeStyle Libre and some pumps I think all people doesn't get it. Because the hospital needs to buy from the companies and some hospitals in Sweden doesn't do because it's a huge cost. for the hospital.

[00:21:59] Rob Howe: Yeah, and I think I've read some different literature online about how, you know, Sweden is like a really good example of health care, of, you know, government provided health care through the taxes. But that's also interesting that it's like it's not always it's not just free health care, right? There's always a caveat, and with those things come that not everything is available all the time, or the newest technology. So that's very interesting.

[00:22:29] Sara Moback: Yeah, because I was getting the new CGM from Medtronic, like the Guardian Connect. Have you heard of it? Yeah, and I was talking to Medtronic, and I was like, oh, I'm getting some questions about if you want to buy it as a private person. And they were like, oh, no, you can't because you need to go through the hospital to get one. So you need to go to your diabetes doctor and beg on your knees that they should buy it so you can take it.

[00:23:09] Rob Howe: and in some in some countries i know the uk specifically if you're if your numbers are within range so if you if you have like a good a1c they often won't give you a like a cgm uh they won't pay for your cgm because you don't need it to their their criteria says you don't need it even even though it would be so helpful to have one so it's very interesting like the criteria that they have for chronic illness because you know we all still have the same diabetes no matter how we take care of it and a cgm could be just as beneficial for someone whose blood sugars are always in range as someone who is having a tough time yeah i know it's the same

[00:23:50] Sara Moback: in sweden it's so crazy because i was begging to get the FreeStyle Libre um before a few uh maybe a year ago and it was like oh no you can't get one because you are too perfect in your diabetes it? And I was like, no, but it's really hard. I do fight every day to have a good blood sugar. And they were like, oh, how many blood sugar tests are you taking every day? And they did some count on it. And I was like taking blood sugar tests 12 times a day. And And then I get a Libre.

[00:24:31] Rob Howe: So you had to prove that there was a need for it.

[00:24:35] Sara Moback: Yeah. Like you have to beg on your knees if you want to have one.

[00:24:42] Rob Howe: And that's a tough feeling, right? Because you feel good about the range that you're in and you want to make it easier on yourself to get there. and someone else who is in charge of the products that keep you alive says no? What was that feeling like?

[00:25:03] Sara Moback: It feels like they don't even care. The doctors and the nurses don't even realize how hard it is to have diabetes. That's the craziest thing because they told me, like oh but you are looking so so happy and and you are so healthy you're looking so good you don't need one and i was like you don't even know how my life is like how hard i fight every day like with blood sugar and insulin and like preparing food in my my bag every day and buying snacks and yeah, you know it. And even in Sweden we have those diabetes sites on Facebook and they are sharing a site where they are really showing that with a CGM the person with diabetes lives longer. And when you are reading that and you don't get a CGM or something

[00:26:07] Rob Howe: else like a pump or or something that's really depressing oh absolutely it's like i i can't it leads a lot of questions right it's like they don't understand the first one being like they don't understand me the second being like oh they're not giving me every opportunity i have to have the best quality of life yeah that's true it's very interesting in the in america right now we're going through in the House of Representatives passed a health care a new health care bill that lists type 1 diabetes as a pre-existing condition so we would have to get charged extra from insurance companies because we have type 1 diabetes and there are a number of other diseases as well including cancer heart disease and so right now there's a lot of advocacy people are writing their senators because the bill now goes to the Senate and, you know, type 1 diabetics, we don't want to have to pay extra for already having type 1 diabetes because we couldn't help it. There's nothing we could have done. And so now, you know, it's very, when you see that and there's that lack of awareness of what this disease actually is and how you get it and how you treat it, it is depressing. It's like it makes and like you said, when when your co-workers make a comment like, oh, you're going to eat apple. It's like, well, you see that and it's like, oh, well, you can't have this because you have this disease. Yeah, it makes you makes you angry. You know, I feel upset and it's just it's very frustrating.

[00:27:41] Sara Moback: Yeah, it's the same when it's like coffee and sweet. Maybe in Sweden we call fika and oh, and they are telling me that I can't eat it. because it's sugar inside it. And like, I want to punch them in the face.

[00:28:00] Rob Howe: It's so terrible. Yeah, I think a few of my guests always talk about that. It's always bad at work whenever there's like a celebration or there's like some snacks or like a sweet or donuts or like cakes. Yeah. You have one, it's like, oh, should you be eating that?

[00:28:17] Sara Moback: Like, I'm a person like you. If I could eat, if you can eat, I can eat. It's the same.

[00:28:25] Rob Howe: So with that in mind, what kind of diabetes advocacy groups and awareness groups are there in Sweden that you're involved in or what kind of ways do you guys try to spread awareness?

[00:28:40] Sara Moback: Well, I do have one of the bigger blogs in Sweden about diabetes type 1. and I recently started to reach out to people by talking at big events about my life with diabetes and to get more people to be aware of diabetes really is for diagnose because like we were talking about before, people can say to me, oh but do you have diabetes but you are so skinny like aren't diabetes people fat and I was like no you're wrong so I think we need to reach out more than we are today but I think like this pod podcast it's it's really good because I think you are reaching out to more people and it's a modern way to reach out to people who don't really know what diabetes is.

[00:29:50] Rob Howe: And it's great too because I can talk to people in Sweden. I can talk to people all over and continue to spread awareness of what it's like globally. And I think my favorite part of it is that even though you and I have never met, we, I mean, the problems that we have here in the US are very similar to the ones that you're going through in Sweden. So I think that really kind of brings us more together as a community and lets us all know, like, we shouldn't be silent about our, you know, our struggle with diabetes. We don't have to do this alone. We can continue to educate people every day about what

[00:30:25] Sara Moback: we're going through. And I was like getting a email from a woman who had diabetes for, yeah all of her life and she was like 40 years old and was having a husband and two children age of 12 I think and she was telling me how can you be so open about your diabetes because my husband and my children have never ever seen me taking a shot and I was like oh really we need to get this we need to do something about this because people are ashamed of their diagnosed and that's not life you shouldn't be ashamed of who you are and whatever diagnosed you have cancer or diabetes or something else you shouldn't be ashamed at all it's the community that that should teach the the the people around that it is okay to take a shot or

[00:31:27] Rob Howe: to eat a donut or like it's nothing yeah it is and I think with that in mind um you know spreading awareness and like being open with uh and confident with your diabetes what uh I guess who who's someone that motivates you or you look up to and you say you know I can do this because they're doing it or someone you get encouragement from either in your life or in the T1D community?

[00:31:59] Sara Moback: Well, I think I am really confident about who I am and that I have diabetes. And I shouldn't be ashamed of that because, like you said before, it's not my fault that I got diabetes. But I'm looking up to, I went to Amsterdam with a bunch of diabetic people in my age, like 25, 26, 27, something like that. And they are really encouragement to me because they're showing their normal life with diabetes. And it's so funny to see how people really can show their diabetes in a good way and they are they don't cry and but they are like talking shit about the pump and the blood sugar and oh I really want to eat the the doughnut now but well I eat it anyway like it's it's quite funny and it's a it's a comic way to to feel good about your disease and I think there are lot of people out there like you and like Glitter Glucose, like I'm following on Instagram, those people really need to get more space in media because I think they're doing a good job and to help others who are ashamed of their diagnosis.

[00:33:35] Rob Howe: It's funny you bring up Paloma because her interview is so great and she does such awesome work in Arizona here in the US. The more people I meet with type 1 diabetes, like within five minutes, I feel like I've known them for years. I was recently at a JDRF event here in Dallas, and I was just moderating a panel. And I met the panel members maybe five minutes before we all went up there. And by the end of the hour, we were all joking around and laughing with each other and just sharing our stories. And I think we, we just feel more comfortable around other type ones. It was just a very, I don't know. It's a very cool experience just to be able to have, no matter how many people you're connecting with, like you can make a difference in your T1D community, even if there's only a few people around you, just from giving you, giving that like openness and being around other people. It's, it's very important and we can make a big impact by doing that. So I would always encourage people and I've been doing that more than ever these days to get involved with someone else with type 1 diabetes, however you feel like that's best, whether that's on Instagram or whether that's online or on a blog or making a race team or just going to your local JDRF events. Those things make a huge difference.

[00:34:58] Sara Moback: Yeah. And you feel that awkward confidence when you are around people with diabetes. like it's a feeling that it's okay to show the pump and to show when you're taking the insulin because it's not weird.

[00:35:19] Rob Howe: It's not weird. It's funny. It's like I feel the same way that I would feel with like a teammate and like a sports team. We just know each other and are confident around each other. It's pretty awesome.

[00:35:33] Sara Moback: Yeah.

[00:35:37] Rob Howe: So, Sara, what are you most looking forward to in your type 1 walk? As a type 1 diabetic in Sweden in 2017, what are you looking forward to out on the horizon?

[00:35:53] Sara Moback: I'm recently starting my own business called easytype.se where I'm going to talk more about the diagnosis and how it is to live with it and tomorrow I'm going to meet a friend or someone I haven't met before but we are going to to do a diabetes meetup in in Sweden to yeah to invite people who have diabetes and to make a weekend of it and yeah to share more about how it is to live with a disease like this one. And that it is okay to feel bad about it and to cry and to laugh and every emotion.

[00:36:43] Rob Howe: Well, first of all, congratulations on the new business. I know that's a huge step. And thank you for all the work that you're doing to bring people together. I think that's amazing. And I think we all could do a little bit more in our own ways to bring other type ones together and spread that awareness. But I'm really glad you're doing that. It's fantastic.

[00:37:06] Sara Moback: Yeah, thank you. It feels amazing.

[00:37:09] Rob Howe: It does. And I think that's, you know, anytime you're going into like a new business, like if you really love it and it really means a lot to you, that's going to make it easy on the days where, you know, you just have a lot of work to do. Speaking from experience here, it's like, you know, there are some days where I don't want to go edit podcasts, but I know that it can make a difference for someone. So that's what keeps me going.

[00:37:32] Sara Moback: Yeah, and it's funny that it could be tough either like one day, but then you've got like one email from someone you don't even know and it tells you that, oh, what you are doing are making my life more easier. and that's so fantastic I'm so glad to make one person more confident in their diabetes

[00:38:05] Rob Howe: yeah and that's the difference right one person at a time and even just making somebody's life or day better just one day at a time so yeah I'm really glad you're doing that I hope to hear more about easytype.se. That's exciting.

[00:38:23] Sara Moback: Yeah, I hope you do that too. Yeah, I have big plans, but we'll see how it goes.

[00:38:30] Rob Howe: Well, good. I love it. Big plans are always exciting, so I wish you the best on that.

[00:38:36] Sara Moback: Yeah, thank you.

[00:38:38] Rob Howe: Sort of in the same vein, I always ask this question, and I've been getting different answers, so I'm trying to think about different ways to ask it, But let's just put like the scenario is like you only have time to answer or to tell a person who's been recently diagnosed one thing or somebody who's struggling with diabetes. Tell them one thing. Like you're about to get on a plane. You've got to go. Like you're going to – you've got to leave and you've only got like 15 seconds with them. What's the one thing that you tell them?

[00:39:09] Sara Moback: Oh, God. I should tell the person that life isn't over. and live your life like you didn't have diabetes, because life is so much more than taking the shots and testing your blood sugar. It's a part of your life, but your dreams are coming true if you really want to.

[00:39:43] Rob Howe: I love that. I think that's, uh, and I, and I believe it. I think I, I'm evidence of that. I think you are. And I think, you know, a lot of my other guests are, and there's so many other examples of, um, of people who didn't let type 1 be the, be the end for them. Um, and I think that's, what's great about today in the community is that it can be the beginning of something really awesome. Um, I, you know, I've met so many people just because I've I decided to start being more open and allowing other people to enrich my life, I guess, with other type 1 diabetics who have these amazing stories, and yourself included. Thank you so much for reaching out and for coming out on the podcast.

[00:40:26] Sara Moback: Thank you so much for having me. It was a lot of fun.

[00:40:29] Rob Howe: It was. If our guests want to connect with you, where can they find you online?

[00:40:35] Sara Moback: um instagram is easytype.se and it's the same on facebook and i do have a blog but it's in swedish right now but i will let you know when it's it's global great yeah yeah

[00:40:52] Rob Howe: yeah um and that that's one thing i was like you know what if it's in swedish i don't know if i'm going to be able to get it but that google translate uh really comes in handy

[00:41:01] Sara Moback: yeah I know I will let you know when it's translated

[00:41:06] Rob Howe: yeah please do

[00:41:07] Sara Moback: yeah

[00:41:08] Rob Howe: well Sara thank you so much for taking time out of your day to talk to us and we will look forward to seeing what you do with Easy Type and please keep in touch thanks for listening to Diabetics Doing Things subscribe to our newsletter for weekly emails and behind the scenes content and if you or someone you know has an amazing story to share send an email to rob at DiabeticsDoingThings.com