Diabetics Doing Diabetes Domination with Daniele Hargenrader the Diabetes Dominator

[00:00:00] Rob Howe: Welcome to the Diabetics Doing Things podcast, where we explore the amazing stories of type 1 diabetics around the world. I'm your host, Rob Howe, Diabetics Doing Things founder and 11-year type 1 diabetic. Help raise awareness for diabetics doing things by sharing this with your diabetic friends. We're also on Facebook and Instagram. Tag a type 1 friend today. This week's guest is Daniele Hargenrader, the Diabetes Dominator and founder of Diabetes Dominator Coaching. She's also a best-selling author of Unleash Your Inner Diabetes Dominator. We talk about how the principles of the diabetes dominator system allow Daniele to completely turn her life around, and how that journey continues today with her clients. Welcome. This is episode 6 of Diabetics Doing Things, and we have a very special guest today, Daniele Hargenrader. You also might know her as the diabetes dominator, so welcome to the show.

[00:00:55] Daniele Hargenrader: Thank you. Thank you for having me. I appreciate the opportunity.

[00:00:58] Rob Howe: So, Daniele, I know we've talked a little bit already. How about you just give our listeners a little bit of background on you and sort of your diabetes story and how we came to get here today?

[00:01:10] Daniele Hargenrader: Sure. Well, I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes in 1991. So I'm actually coming up in September, my 25-year diaversary. So I was diagnosed in 1991. And for me back then and for anybody back then, there really was no Internet. There was no Google. There was no diabetes online community. So it was a very isolating kind of experience. I actually didn't know anybody else with diabetes until I was in my late 20s. So me and my mom and my dad just kind of took whatever we got from the doctors, which to say was lacking would be an understatement. It was just, you know, stay in the hospital, kind of count your carbs. Here's how you inject insulin. Here's a little pamphlet and go ahead and go back to your lives. So luckily, my mom and my dad, very strong people, very supportive. And we just kind of figured it out as we went along, trial and error. And we kind of got into a groove of things. And life was as normal as it can be for a newly diagnosed child.

[00:02:10] Rob Howe: Right.

[00:02:10] Daniele Hargenrader: And about three years later, which was the day after my 12th birthday, my father passed away very suddenly. And when I say very suddenly, I mean one week he was a co-owner of a plumbing company. He was running the company, doing his thing. He had a massive heart attack. He had a quadruple bypass surgery. And within a week, all of this happened, and he didn't make it out of the hospital. So that compounded on top of the diabetes, that level of loss, and being just turning 12, that kind of preteen, you know, puberty kind of time, emotions were running high, that kind of snowballed into a very deep depression that was fueled by a binge eating disorder that lasted my entire teenage life. And I, by the time I was 13 or 14, I was 200 pounds from an, went going from that, from just an average sized child, never had any weight issues before that. And I spent my teenage life just um kind of miserable isolated introverted um and even back then when i was diagnosed we got a lot of information about the problems and the the negative things that were going to happen now that i had diabetes you know right the complications you're probably going to have to deal with limb loss and you know diabetic retinopathy and you know people who have diabetes You know, they live shorter lives than other people. It was just a whole lot of negativity. So when you're a child and you really don't have a lot of background information, you kind of believe what you hear. And so, you know, a very long story short, as I began to get, you know, into my adult life, 18, 19, 20, I was always a very strong-willed person. I was always an avid learner. I'm a self-proclaimed nerd. I love to learn. I was a straight-A student. That was kind of my strength. I always got A's and I always felt like I was smart. So I decided to learn about diabetes. Really, for me, where I began the learning was nutrition. And because I love to cook, my mom is an amazing cook and she always taught me to go in and prepare my own food. So I ended up cooking more healthy foods and I got my bachelor's degree in nutrition science because I just felt like I could use my brain power to help me get out of the really unhealthy relationship that I had developed with food over my teenage years. And it did, combined with a lot of help, mentoring, coaching, psychology, psychiatry. I had lots of help along the way. And I kind of just decided that I wasn't willing to believe anymore that that was the outcome that my life was going to give me. I believe now that I was more in control of the outcome, that it wasn't necessarily, I finally figured out that it wasn't the diabetes that was causing me to be unhappy and unhealthy. It was the choices I was making around my diabetes and my health care habits that was the real problem. And that if I changed the choices I was making, I would change my day-to-day realities. I went from A1Cs of 13.5% throughout my teenage life because I also didn't necessarily always take insulin at the right times when I was having these binge eating situations. And I slowly but surely over many years began getting stronger mentally and then realizing that seeing the results, feeling the feelings of pride when I would make different choices and have different outcomes. And I'd say, you know what, I don't believe I'm going to have these complications anymore. Now, do I believe it's not possible for me to get the complications? Of course not. You know, I'm not unrealistic. But at the same time, I do know now, I believe with every bit of my being that it is my choices that will determine the outcomes of my health, regardless of diabetes or not, especially with diabetes. You know, I make choices with food, I get certain blood sugars. I make other choices with food, I get other blood sugars. To me, it's very scientific and it's very empowering to be able to measure and manage that. And I kind of just grasped onto that power that it made me feel and kind of continued from there.

[00:06:34] Rob Howe: And I mean, you bring up a good point, I think, about being in control of your own choices and your own destiny. Diabetes is sort of like the ultimate microcosm of that ideology, right? Because I think everyone that I've talked to really in my life, and you always ask, well, what was it like being diagnosed? Or how has your life changed? And it always boils down to, it's like, well, either I can do this. I can test and give myself insulin and think about carbs and count everything and eat the right things and exercise. Or I can have all these complications and live a short, abbreviated life without all of the luxuries of being a healthy person and have severe complications later in life. And I think obviously when you get to see it that black and white, it's kind of like, okay, well, this is what I want to do. Now, how can I control that long term to make sure that I'm healthy? And obviously not everybody makes those choices. But for myself, I think, and I want to talk a little bit more about your diagnosis story because another thing that a couple of common denominators are not everybody has a great experience during diagnosis. So whether that's bedside manner or just education or materials that are available.

[00:07:46] Daniele Hargenrader: Absolutely. And I think you did just bring up a really important point. And I think that there's a huge move in, you know, patient advocacy nowadays and also on the doctor side. I'm very fortunate to be close and friends with doctors now that are not the doctors of the past, you know, where it's kind of just this linear thinking of X and Y and Z. It's like what you said. If the doctor said to me, hey, you have this disease, but if you want to, if you make these choices, you can live the full life that you want. Instead of saying, hey, you have this disease and now your life's completely changed and you're probably going to get these complications and all of this negativity. Because you are prone to believe what a doctor says, especially when you're a child and you have no background information on the thing that you're hearing about. So I think it is super important for healthcare professionals and all aspects of healthcare professionals, meaning doctors, certified diabetes educators, even nurses, to kind of give that information to the patient to empower them because they're in a position to do so. So people are looking to them for advice. And if they give advice saying, hey, the outcome of your situation is in your hands, you have the power to be the healthiest, most vital, vibrant person in the world. Or if you choose to not care at all about your health, then just like anyone else, you're not going to be healthy. And they put it in those terms. I think it would have definitely been a different outcome, not just for me, but for anyone that hears that from a position of authority. And fortunately, and sometimes unfortunately, doctors are in a position of authority, and they don't use that in a very positive way, which can be an issue for sure.

[00:09:30] Rob Howe: And, I mean, obviously you bring up a huge issue in terms of education and with healthcare professionals. Do you remember what it was like hearing at nine years old that you necessarily weren't going to live a normal life or sort of how they framed that conversation?

[00:09:49] Daniele Hargenrader: I don't really remember the exact conversation, but I do remember getting this little pamphlet. And the pamphlet was really just full of horror. It was like it should have been just called a pamphlet of diabetic horrors because it was like, you know, showing people, you know, cartoon drawings of people, you know, with their limb, their toe, you know what I mean? Their toes kind of highlighted and their extremities highlighted saying, you know, circulatory problems and kidney problems and this and that. There was no hope or positivity in the information that we got. And it was so limited. And, you know, it just wasn't enough. And it wasn't portrayed in a good light. And so for me, it probably one of the things that I remember hearing that really stuck with me was that people with diabetes tend to live a life that is shortened by something like between 10 to 20 years shorter than the average person based upon the, you know, the pressure on our internal systems based on, you know, having sometimes elevated blood sugars, you know, puts our kidneys and our liver through extra work, so on and so forth. And then when my father passed away at 55 years old, those two things kind of melded together in my head. It was like, oh, well, my dad died at 55. Oh, my God. Am I going to die at, like, 40? Like, and I really, as a young child, teenager, that was something that stuck in my mind. And that was one of the biggest things that I had to kind of eradicate. I just, to me, now that's absurd. Like I, you know, I hope and, you know, with the medical and technological advances there are today, I'd like to live to 150, honestly, the way they're working with genes and cellular, you know, stuff that they're helping people reverse aging.

[00:11:41] Rob Howe: Yeah, I think I read an article, I saw this little tidbit online today, it said one in three people born today will live to be 100 or more.

[00:11:52] Daniele Hargenrader: Yeah, and I really do have a lot of faith in science just because I've seen it work for myself and I also just really love it. But yeah, no, I just think that overall for me, I was able to turn the health aspect of taking care of myself and the nutrition and the fitness. I turned that into something that I really enjoyed, like a gamification thing instead of it being like, oh, well, I have to do this. I have to do this so that I'm well. And if I don't do it, then I'm going to be, you know, feeling poorly and things like that. It's like I now feel like I get to do this. It's something I get to do. It's a gift that I either get to give to myself or I don't. And I get to see as an experiment. You know, if I do this and I take this much insulin, what happens? And if I take this and I eat this, what happens? And then I record it because I'm a big believer of you can't manage what you don't measure. and I measure things and I have lots of Google Drive documents and I love taking notes and say, oh, this time last year, this happened. I just, to me, I learned to make it fun for myself instead of making it a chore. And I think that mindset shift is the key to anybody. It's not just someone with diabetes, but the same thing. It's like if people don't like to exercise or they don't like to eat healthy and they see it as a chore instead of a gift, of course, anything you see that way is going to feel like a pain in the butt instead of like a joy to do. And of course, sometimes I don't feel like, you know, counting carbs or whatever, but you know what? I do it anyway. That's just the way I'm kind of a hard ass sometimes. Um, not just on myself, but you know, in life I'm pretty stubborn and pretty strong willed. I'm like, well, I'll talk to myself. I'm like, really? You don't want to do that? Too bad. Get, get over it and move on.

[00:13:38] Rob Howe: Right.

[00:13:39] Daniele Hargenrader: Like I just do. And, uh, that's just how I roll.

[00:13:43] Rob Howe: And it's funny you mentioned that. Somebody asked me as I was going through this process and sort of speaking it and verbalizing that I was going to start this endeavor. Somebody asked me at work, what's the real difference? She's like, I know it's like, you know, I've seen you eat like a cookie or like a piece of cake every now and then, like a work function. Like, what's the real difference? And it's like, honestly, I've just counted carbs on every single piece of food that I've eaten in the last 11 years. And not only that, I always look at everybody else's plate and I do the math on theirs as well. So it's like, oh, okay, I know that Ryan is eating 75 carbs right now in his burrito. Good thing he doesn't have to count that and give himself insulin. But if he was me, he would need, you know, eight units of insulin for that. and um so i kind of i don't know same thing kind of make it like a game for myself and just like just keeping myself sharp um and i and it didn't even occur to me because it's just become so routine um and you know that it really is just an extra step and i i've done a little bit of traveling in the last year like overseas and um you know just having an extra box to check when i when i go out of the country like oh well don't just bring enough clothes but make sure that you You have enough infusion sets and enough insulin and enough medication to get you all the way through and that you have all your documents just in case you have to check it at customs and things like that.

[00:15:04] Daniele Hargenrader: Absolutely. And I have a similar thing. Luckily, my husband is very health-minded. He likes to count carbs and he enjoys that too. I don't know if he liked it so much until he met me, but he'll play along. If he has something, I'm like, you know that's like 100 carbs, right? He's like, I know. But he's a very good sport about it. And yeah, same thing with me with the traveling. Traveling is my favorite thing to do. It is one of my most important, you know, parts of my life is to make sure that travel is incorporated into my life. And like you, in the past few years, I've done a lot of traveling overseas as well to Europe and things like that. And I like to tell people that one of the reasons I started my interview series on YouTube is because I wanted to provide and highlight as many people who are out there thriving with diabetes in their own way. And how I categorize thriving with diabetes is not just necessarily health-wise, but it's the fact that you have diabetes and you're chasing after your dreams, you're living out your passions, and it's not ever going to be the reason why you're not living an epic life. So if that involves traveling or making a specific career choice or just having kids, you know, whatever it is that makes you happy and that you want to do but you may have felt in the past that diabetes was the reason why you couldn't, that's what I want to kind of highlight to people. If you're not inspired by me, no worries, but I am going to provide you with as many other people from all backgrounds, ages, sexes, whatever. Like you're going to find someone that you kind of vibe with that's out there doing their thing, doing things, doing things, and you can too. I just want everybody to know that you can too, but you do have to shift your mindset. There's really no other way to do it. If you believe that you can't do it, then you're right. But if you believe that you can do it, you're also right. But it really does take some inner work. I've done a lot of inner work. I've been to a lot of, I'm a big follower of Tony Robbins. A lot of people may have heard of him or not heard of him, but he's, you know, I don't know, he's probably in his 50s now. But he's been, he's worked with, you know, people all over the whole country or all countries in the world, you know, millions and millions of people, basically just helping them get past their inner blocks of, you know, beliefs on why they can't accomplish anything. It really doesn't matter what it is. And, you know, I've been to many of his seminars in the past, and I just really attached to the things that he said. They made so much sense. And I have other mentors and things like that, like I love Les Brown and, you know, Brendon Burchard and just people out there who have diabetes, they don't have diabetes, but guess what? Tony Robbins had pituitary gland cancer and had a drug addict, alcoholic father and mother and came from nothing and now is one of the richest people in the world. I see that everybody out there who has an adversity, which is everybody, can turn that adversity into advantage with the right mindset. And I don't think anybody's exempt from that. I just don't, I don't believe it. I totally agree. I'm over here

[00:18:16] Rob Howe: like raising the roof behind the scenes. And I think, yeah, it's all about how you approach things. It's like, if you say to yourself, I'm going to be successful with or without diabetes, you know, for me, I was like, okay, well, I'm going to continue to do this. Like, this isn't really going to derail my plan. I'm just going to make sure that I'm really good at diabetes. And that's sort of just my personality. But, you know, as I'm going through and like college playing, got a scholarship to play in college and then on trying to play professionally, I had to lie about being diabetic. I had to keep that away because I was in the position where I wasn't good enough to beat somebody out who may not have had another issue, like a health issue. So I had to keep that under the radar. And so with that comes like an even more focus on control and like knowing where I was at and making sure that I always was prepared for any situation. so my gym bag became kind of like a diabetes uh emergency bag like it had everything in there from you know gatorade to glucagon to um to insulin just pre-loaded shots ready to go just in case i had to slip back to the end of the bench real quick and take a take a shot or a pump off the pump and you know it was challenging but i wouldn't trade it for the world and i got to do what i loved and so those are those are the things like you said diabetics doing things and so that's why you know we're here today we're talking about diabetics out there doing cool things for themselves and celebrating those things. Absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more. And,

[00:19:40] Daniele Hargenrader: you know, I know a lot of people say that, you know, it's a chore, like I say, it's hard. And I'm not ever going to say that it's not hard. I mean, but the thing is, is about, there's a million things in life that are hard. And I find that if you kind of think it, think of it in a way that you become empowered by the fact that we do have to work harder than other people. A lot of people like to say it's not fair. And I used to say that a lot. I used to live in a state of self-pity. I literally lived in a pity party for myself constantly throughout my teenage life from 12 to 18, 19 years old. Why is this happening to me? Why doesn't everybody else, you know, why can those kids eat this and I can? Or, you know, why do I have to leave the class, you know, to go have a snack? And why, you know, it was all these questions about comparing myself to other people and why don't they have to, and it's not fair and this and that. But that mindset, that idea of just constantly wishing that you were like other people, I think is detrimental to everybody's wellbeing. Again, regardless of whether you have diabetes or not, because the thing is that we do have to take that extra step. We do have to go that extra mile. And there's been no time in the history of the world that going the extra mile does not make you stronger, more capable, and just overall a more awesome human being. It's like we're forced to be more awesome. And if you see that as a negative thing, I mean, I guess that's something you could do, but I just see that as a gift. Like I know it's weird. And of course I wish I didn't have diabetes, but at the same time, if I didn't have diabetes, I would imagine that I would not be even close to as healthy as I am now. I mean, I'm 33 years old and I would venture to say that I'm healthier than any other 30 anything year old woman that I know that doesn't have diabetes because of the fact that I have diabetes and pay such close attention to my health. I just, I see it as a catalyst for positive change instead of a catalyst for negative outcomes, because I lived in that state of mind where it was nothing but negativity, nothing but helpless, hopeless pity you know blame and you know this isn't my fault I shouldn't have to suffer for this and this and that and this and that but I really do believe that everybody in life gets dealt their own set of cards and sometimes we get dealt more than one card you know not just diabetes I know people who have a multitude of uh endocrine diseases not just that but you know diabetes and they have celiac and they have this and that and you know fibromyalgia and food sensitivities. And for me, you know, I have diabetes and I've had to deal with an incredible amount of loss in my life from the death of my father, the death of my sister, the death of my aunts and uncles. I have about a family that has about three actual living family members and including my mother, I mean, and me and one other person. So I have been to more funerals in my life than probably most people will ever in their entire life. And I'm only 33 years old, but I don't let that stop me or feel bad for myself because if I wanted to be depressed and sad every day I'd have a whole bucket full of things to pull in and reach out and wallow in the sorrow of but so does everybody else I think that we just kind of get caught up we have this disease and we feel like we don't deserve it I agree you don't deserve it but nobody deserves the crappy hand that they're dealt most of the time but it's really just about how you play that hand it really is i think everybody has the ability to play the hand that they're dealt in a multitude of ways and you can change it at any time by changing the choices that you make there's never a too late to change your choices time ever in life i don't think in my opinion

[00:23:27] Rob Howe: i totally agree i think there's never a great time to take a great risk you just kind of have to do it and step out. So I feel like I almost know the answer to this question already, but how did you go from, let's talk about the transition from being just Daniele to the diabetes dominator.

[00:23:44] Daniele Hargenrader: Well, really the diabetes dominator was born, the name was born probably in around 2008, maybe a year after. My husband and I met in 2006, got married in 2007. And so in about probably in 2008, you know, I was going through a lot of changes. You know, during that time, my husband actually introduced me to the love of lifting weights. Before my husband, you know, I did some exercise here and there, some cardio. I just get on the elliptical or whatever. So I had kind of started venturing into exercise, but I wasn't really an athlete the way I consider myself to be now. So I was really going through a lot of changes with his support. He was always my number one cheerleader. And we were sitting around one day and just talking about, I think it really probably was after a Tony Robbins seminar, to be honest. But we were just talking about the mentality that I had to be in to be the person that I wanted to be and have the health habits that I wanted to have, the consistency with the exercise. Because the consistency with the nutrition had already kind of taken hold because I really, that was my passion. But the exercise was really where I struggled a lot, even up until eight years ago or so, six years, or not even six. But the point is that we were talking about superhero mentalities. You have to be – and he said, I think he even said, you have to dominate diabetes. And he's like, yeah, you have to be a diabetes dominator. And we kind of just looked at each other. And my husband's a tech guy. My husband works for the Department of Defense. He's actually one of the top 10% of cybersecurity experts in the world. And so he's very big on getting domain names. So he thinks that if you find something great, you should get the domain. So we literally bought the domain Diabetes Dominator. I wasn't even coaching people at that time. I hadn't even gone to personal training school at that time. I was just helping people with nutrition at that point. and it just sat there but it became my email address on purpose. I became Daniele at diabetesdominator.com because I needed to see it all the time. Just like you need visual reminders of things. I'm a big fan of putting things up around your house, you know, putting sticky notes on your bathroom mirror, putting things on your refrigerator door, putting things on your computer screen, things that you need to be reminded of all the time so that you can consistently work on them. That's one of my biggest kind of tips to people. If you want to change something, you need to have a visual reminder of it as often as possible. So I just made that my, my persona, I made that my name. And then I began to live into it. And the more I lived into it, the more of the diabetes dominator I became. And, you know, in 2009, I went, you know, enrolled in personal training school, which was a huge leap of faith for me. It was a six month program, 500 hours in a gym, four days a week, where we'd learn in the classroom about all the anatomy and physiology of the human body, all the muscles, the joints, and all of the actions that were involved in working out. And then we would go into the gym and actually put all the book learning that we did into physical action. So I changed my mind again about what was possible. And that really, after I got out of personal training school, that's when the diabetes Dominator went from, you know, being my email address to I was already had a business called Healthy Homemade, where I was helping people with cooking food that were that was healthy for them. But now I had both sides of the equation. I had the nutrition side, and I had the physical fitness side. And so I went from, you know, my business being Healthy Homemade to my business being Diabetes Dominator Coaching. And that's really kind of the way it transitioned itself into what it has become today.

[00:27:41] Rob Howe: Yeah, and I think I know you recently, I mean as recently as November, your Kickstarter got funded for your book. And so tell us a little bit about that. What was that like?

[00:27:54] Daniele Hargenrader: It was awesome. So yeah, the Kickstarter actually got funded in July of 2015. And actually we reached our goal in three days, which was unbelievable. Wow, that's awesome. The level of gratitude that I feel to the diabetes community. And it wasn't just the diabetes community. It was, you know, people that I know that have know about my dreams and know how hard I've been working towards, you know, and we're willing to support that. But I have been I wrote the first chapter of a book that I wanted to write about diabetes in 2011. I said to my husband, I want to write a book about diabetes. I have so much to say and I'd love to pass this knowledge on. And so it just became this thing that was in the back of my mind. and it built and built and built. And then I finally said, and this is kind of how I work best under deadlines, under pressure. I need to have a hard deadline looming down on me to get something done. That's just really how I work. And so I said, you know, I'm going to publish this book in time for diabetes awareness month in 2015. And I'm going to get this Kickstarter going so that I promise people who have pledged money to my campaign that this is going to happen because then they're going to be expecting me to have it, which is a very hard deadline to put on myself. So that was the decision. And I just worked really, really hard to get that done. And it was an exhilarating experience. And I felt very, it was very fulfilling to get that out of my heart and my head and into the universe. And now it's out there and I can say, okay, yeah, I have my book. It's out there. It's big. It's 300 plus pages. But it's not just a book. It's a system. I have a book and it's not just like, hey, read these anecdotes, which I do have plenty of anecdotes in there, but it's also a system, which I call the diabetes dominator system. And it's the six pillars of total health, which is what I created for my clients. I mean, really, I created it for my clients based upon what I felt I would have needed 15 years ago to get me from point A to point B, from where I was end to where I am now in a much quicker fashion, kind of just, you know, cutting away all the BS and saying, okay, here are the main things that we need to focus on to get sustainable, healthy habits. And I'm a very big stickler for sustainability. I don't like, you know, diet programs and things like that where it's like, oh, you're going to lose 20 pounds in a week and then blah, blah, blah. Like, you know, I want people to learn and retrain their brain so that by the time we're done working together or by the time, you know, you go, I have a six week online course too, that kind of coincides with the book that when you come out of that, you're like, yeah, no, I going back to the way I was would be more painful than the reality of, you know, it's a little bit more work that I had to do before, but now I have new habits. So, um, yeah, it's a, it's an interesting, it's an interesting kind of situation getting a book published and we've self-published so that's another thing people think oh i can't you can you have an amazon account and you have a computer you can publish a book because trust me it uh we don't have a publisher it'd be great to have one in the future but at this point i don't even know if i'd be willing to give up the intellectual property because it'd be nerve wracking to have somebody else come in and you know right and it might work so you know it gets

[00:31:16] Rob Howe: to be really authentic and you kind of get to own that process and it truly is your book at that

[00:31:21] Daniele Hargenrader: point, right? Absolutely. Yeah, it's awesome. And I've been getting, I mean, for me, it was, I wanted to reach as many people as possible. And I've been getting so much feedback from the book that, and I actually offer, I decided to offer three bonuses for people that bought the book. And it's on my website that if you buy the book and you send me a screenshot of your receipt, I'll send you online video training. I'll send you a five day meal plan and I'll send you a healthy and unhealthy food guide list because I want people to thrive. I want people to have all that they need to have to do whatever it is that they want to do. And I, that's why I try to put out as much content as I possibly can. That's why I have the YouTube videos. That's why I have, um, you know, I have a 29 page free ebook on my website. I have that's downloadable by anyone. I just want to give people actionable content to do with what they please, um, so that they can thrive so that they can succeed. So I try to offer more value than anyone could ever imagine getting for the price that they're paying. That's really my goal is to serve at a higher level, at the highest level that I can.

[00:32:30] Rob Howe: And talk about some maybe success stories from that. I think that's an amazing way to approach any sort of system. But what kind of success have you seen with people either from feedback or people who bought the book or the program or your actual clients?

[00:32:44] Daniele Hargenrader: Oh, gosh. That could be a whole other podcast.

[00:32:48] Rob Howe: So maybe just pick your favorite.

[00:32:50] Daniele Hargenrader: I'll try to. Well, I have a few. Well, my favorite success story is one of my longest standing clients. And she's actually, I interviewed her at this point. I started working with her when I was, she was 16. And now she's 21 and getting ready to graduate college. And she's going to be a registered nurse at the end of the, actually probably in June once she takes her boards. but she was just you know in that mindset that same mindset of diabetes you know she was 16 she was angry she was pity you know she had a lot of pity for herself and she she completely changed her life and she actually wrote a heist her mom and her mom and I are pretty close because obviously I was you know talking with her mom throughout the process and you know her mom sent me this high school paper that she wrote about one of the people that inspired her most in the world and she wrote it about me. And I just broke down into like a sobbing baby. It was just, you know, to see you're able to have that impact on people that they are inspired by you and that they want to change what they're going to do with their lives. You know, now she wants to take care of people and be a nurse because, you know, someone helped them see that they could do that for other people. It's just overwhelming. And as far as book reviews, I mean, if you go on the Amazon page, I think the book, and it's been out for a few months now, it's got 18 reviews. And just some of the things that people were writing about the book, just like my jaw just dropped to the floor. And, you know, I've gotten pictures emailed to me from people holding my book in New Zealand, in Australia, in all over Europe. And I'm like, I couldn't have wished for anything more fulfilling or just heartwarming or just knowing that I'm on the right path. Like, this is just justification for me that I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. And to hear people's feedback and read the words that they write, you know, just reading this book, I'm three pages in and I already feel myself wanting to change. I remember reading that. I'm like, wow. I mean, that's what I wanted. That was my intention. But to actually hear it from some person who I don't even know what their real name is because their Amazon name, I don't know who they are. But it's just overwhelming sometimes to feel and hear that. So, yeah, it's pretty amazing.

[00:35:13] Rob Howe: Well, with that in mind, for our listeners who haven't encountered you online, where can we find you? I know the book's on Amazon, but what's the – give us your plugs. Where can we find you?

[00:35:24] Daniele Hargenrader: Uh, diabetesdominator.com. That's my main website, which you can also find links to my book there. Um, you can Google diabetes dominator YouTube, but I believe there's also a link to my YouTube channel on my website, diabetesdominator.com. Um, I believe there's probably links to all of my things on my website somewhere at the bottom or things like that, but yeah, go to the website. You know, if you want, go download the 29 page ebook. It's eight tips to thriving with diabetes. all of them are actionable steps you can download it it's free you know you can get kind of an idea of you know what i you know teach and things like that and an insight into the system um yeah i mean i'm on everything i'm on facebook and twitter and instagram and i'm everywhere as far as that goes but my my website diabetesdominator.com is probably the best place to reach me and also if you do decide to purchase the book you can just click on the my book bonuses tab and if you want to send me your PDF, I'll send you all the free training that comes along. And you could even get that with the ebook. You know, I think I can't remember how much the ebook is. I think it might be like $3.99 or something like that. But you can still get all the training, three long videos about the, you know, the six pillars of total health diabetes dominator system, videos that I've shot, I'll email them to you and all that stuff. Because I just want to give, I want to give everything that I have, you know, all of my best training to people who actually want it. If you want to change, I want to help you do so.

[00:36:53] Rob Howe: I love it. Well, Daniele, it's been so great to chat with you. It's really cool how so much of the way that I think about and approach diabetes that you not only support and perpetuate, but also just help other people buy into those. It's been really inspiring chatting with you today. Thanks so much for joining us.

[00:37:16] Daniele Hargenrader: Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure.

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